Brew Advice
the next WellyBC is imperial style beers, i'm going for an American Amber Ale as the base style. and not having brewed one before, not 100% sure how to tie it all together.
style is a mix of malt and hop flavours, balanced to the malt side of things.
any advice on the recipe appriciated.
btw - i'm after a full bodied, toffee malt flavour (not 100% sure which malt to use for that), with a light citrus flavour, and a nice piney/grassy aroma.
this is what i have so far:
style is a mix of malt and hop flavours, balanced to the malt side of things.
any advice on the recipe appriciated.
btw - i'm after a full bodied, toffee malt flavour (not 100% sure which malt to use for that), with a light citrus flavour, and a nice piney/grassy aroma.
this is what i have so far:
Type: All Grain |
Batch Size: 20.00 L |
| Boil Size: 28 L |
| Boil Time: 60 min |
| Taste Rating(out of 50): 35.0 |
| Amount | Item | Type | % or IBU |
|---|---|---|---|
| 6.00 kg | .Pale Malt, Maris Otter (Bairds) (3.2 SRM) | Grain | 80.00 % |
| 0.50 kg | .Amber Malt (Bairds) (43.1 SRM) | Grain | 6.67 % |
| 0.50 kg | .Cara Malt (Bairds) (17.8 SRM) | Grain | 6.67 % |
| 0.50 kg | .Crystal, Medium (Bairds) (76.1 SRM) | Grain | 6.67 % |
| 20.00 gm | .Rakau [10.50 %] (60 min) | Hops | 21.7 IBU |
| 50.00 gm | Simcoe [13.00 %] (Dry Hop 4 days) | Hops | - |
| 30.00 gm | .Motueka [7.80 %] (Dry Hop 4 days) | Hops | - |
| 25.00 gm | .Motueka [7.80 %] (20 min) | Hops | 12.2 IBU |
| 30.00 gm | .Rakau [10.50 %] (20 min) | Hops | 19.7 IBU |
| 25.00 gm | .Amarillo [8.40 %] (10 min) | Hops | 7.9 IBU |
| 25.00 gm | .Motueka [7.80 %] (10 min) | Hops | 7.3 IBU |
| 25.00 gm | .Amarillo [8.40 %] (0 min) | Hops | - |
| 25.00 gm | Simcoe [13.00 %] (0 min) | Hops | - |
Est Original Gravity: 1.075 SG |
Measured Original Gravity: 0.000 SG |
| Est Final Gravity: 1.019 SG | Measured Final Gravity: 0.000 SG |
| Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 7.33 % | Actual Alcohol by Vol: 0.00 % |
| Bitterness: 68.8 IBU | Calories: 0 cal/l |
| Mash Name: Single Infusion, Full Body | Total Grain Weight: 7.50 kg | ||||||||||||
| Sparge Water: 0.00 L | Grain Temperature: 22.2 C | ||||||||||||
| Sparge Temperature: 75.6 C | TunTemperature: 22.2 C | ||||||||||||
| Adjust Temp for Equipment: FALSE | Mash PH: 5.4 PH | ||||||||||||
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Replies to This Discussion
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Permalink Reply by Mark Kessell on
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like i said. this is why i'm here.
i use the internet recipes as a base and work forward from there.
given the 7.5kg grist i have planned, i'll drop my speccies to 10% and work from there. i'll work along the lines of:
90% MO
5% caramalt
3% medium crystal
2% Thomas Fawcett (heard lots of good things about it, or might mix 1% this with 1% dark crystal for a more mixed flavour base)
i still gotta go over the reading on the american hops.
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Permalink Reply by JoKing on
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Malts like Munich, Victory, Buscuit, Special Roast etc aren't Crystal.
That first recipe has 11% crystal in it, the 2nd one has about 13% and the last one has 10% in it.
Out of those 3, I'd brew the last one (Jamil's one) as this one has won more awards in home brew comps than you've had cold beers.
To imperialise it, I wouldn't even bother upping the percentages. Just up the base malt to give you the SG that you want, and up the bittering addition to counter your higher FG... and if you feel like it add a bit more late hop to couter the additional alcohol flavour.
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Permalink Reply by Mike Neilson on
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Buscuit?
That has to be a Kiwi Malt that one!!! Is it Beached with the Whale bro? Just Having you on!!! -
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Permalink Reply by Mark on
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I'm brewing one of these this weekend, so am thinking a lot about the recipe too. Personally I can't stand Bairds amber malt, at least in anything other than tiny quantities, it's got a really intense flavour. I'll be using crystal malts, possibly a good dose of TF dark crystal.
Southern Cross and (the often overlooked) Pacific Jade are good kiwi bittering hops. Personally I love Pacific Jade, it's high alpha, gives loads of citrus, is cheap, has low cohumulone levels and can be used throughout the boil. Dunno why no one seems to use it much.
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Permalink Reply by Matthew on
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Maybe we should switch the WBC to Imperial Amber. This is the style my mind had wandered towards as well...
I've just switched to Pacific Jade for bittering. Loved it. Nice clean bitterness.
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Permalink Reply by Reviled on
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Good point, ive never used Pacific Jade, maybe I should give it a shot, I know its cheap as chips!
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Jade is good. 13 AA, and 24% cohumulone of AA's.
it's a very strong, yet not over powering bitterness.
i use a lot in PA's, IPA's...
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It goes really well with Riwaka and Mot, not sure how it sits with the American varieties.
Maybe I should've kept my mouth shut, if demand pushes price up I'll be forced to use Sticklebract!
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Permalink Reply by James P on
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You'll be making Canterbury Draught in no time with Pac Jade, add a little Pac Gem and you're set! :)
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WASH YOUR MOUTH!!!!
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Hey Steph training wheels had a shed load of Pacific Jade in it and all at the end of the Boil, it was one of the major flavours along with Motueka, all the other hops were back up's for it!!
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