Epic Pale Ale clone

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Permalink Reply by Mark Weusten on October 1, 2014 at 6:44pm

OG was 1050

Permalink Reply by Mark Weusten on October 13, 2014 at 3:03pm

Bottling this tonight, anyone have tasted theirs yet?

Permalink Reply by Sam DT on October 13, 2014 at 3:28pm

Only while bottling (last night) - full-on hop hit but should hopefully mellow out a bit in the bottle...

As for the WLP001 & 007 experiment..

Recap: Mashed at 77, 45L across two fermenters, took about 20 minutes to ramp from protein rest to mash temp.

Gravities:

001: OG:1.052, @9 days 1.010, @bottling (21 days) 1.008

007: OG:1.052, @9 days 1.014 (stirred), @bottling (21 days) 1.012

So looks like 67 works well for 007 but would shoot for the full 68.5 if I try with WLP 001 again.

Taste wise they were quite different (as you might expect with a 4 point difference in gravity) - 007 was relatively mellow where as the 001 was quite harsh. Looking forward to having a proper glass or three in a few weeks time.

Permalink Reply by Mark Weusten on October 13, 2014 at 8:45pm

Just finished bottling mine. Tasted smooth but is quite thin with not much of a malt profile, hops are there but mellow. Hopefully develops more flavour in the bottle.

Permalink Reply by Peter Smith on October 14, 2014 at 1:26pm

I am brewing 40+L tonight of EPA how do people feel the recipe is coming out?   I am thinking of doing a really big whirlpool in addition to the 0min flame out thinking cooling to 67C then a 30 min pump whirlpool of 100g (40l batch)  do you think it needs this?   

We have a fresh batch of EPA in beer fridge at work, I think its hoppier then it was a few months ago....

Permalink Reply by Mark Weusten on October 14, 2014 at 1:42pm

I think those additions would work. I would mash higher than 65 on my next attempt

Permalink Reply by Peter Smith on October 14, 2014 at 1:48pm

1272 is pretty hungry yeast was thinking maybe try to sit at 68C, as I am after  more of a session beer for BBQ keg drinking , was going to aim for 1.048/9

Permalink Reply by Mark Weusten on October 20, 2014 at 10:48am

I tried this from the mini keg on Sunday. I am quite stoked with how it came out, this is a great recipe. For my palate next time I would mash a bit higher for body and increase the dry hopping amounts. My first GF beer and best beer also.

Permalink Reply by Steve Hinton on October 20, 2014 at 11:43am

I've only got 2 bombers left :-( Saving them for our next APA brew session.

If I brewed this again (or should I say when!) I will adjust recipe to hit 1.052 and mash at 68.5. Mine was a bit malt forward and a bit thin on the palette but I can put that down to the extra 8 points and lower mash temp.

Still a very drinkable beer even if not a great clone.

Permalink Reply by Peter Smith on October 21, 2014 at 4:33pm

EPA Beersmith file - going for 46L 1.051 ish 68mash more ibu and a bit of wheat , gladdies PA,   as long as elements fire, etc etc etc...    and a touch of med/dark crystal  

 

Attachments:

• EPA 46L.bsmx, 27 KB

Permalink Reply by Peter Smith on October 23, 2014 at 10:26am

Interestingly I got quite low sparge extraction out of that batch,  the initial run off was 1.060 but I only got out enough wort to end up with 36L in the fermenter before the sparge runoff droped to 1.010...      I vorlaufed for a good 15mins and got the clearest wort ever seen at the Smith household.    all in a 60L fermenter on garage floor and it was sitting at 18-19C last night well under way, no delay with live a 700ml pitch of live  1272 slurry and oxygen.   Managed to get another 2L from wort recovery method in a 10l carboy... still ditched 4L of thick trub, there was 375g of cascade in that

 

Permalink Reply by Sam DT on October 23, 2014 at 10:40am

I came in lower than expected as well but only by about 5 litres (scaled to target 49-50,

Will be interested to hear how you go with the hops - mine was initially quite full on but after two weeks in the bottle my 007 seems to have scrubbed out a bit and was a little bland, will try the 001 tonight, hopefully the lower sugars push the hops forward a little. 

If I'd followed the BS hop age calculator (which I didn't) I should have upped additions by about 30% which I'd probably do next time / get some fresher hops.

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