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Ok, the jury's still out on this one.
Brew #1 was the brown ale and had no hop character in the keg yet plenty in the bottle .. confusing. This was more than the usual keg vs bottle difference, markedly so.
Brew # 2 was a bitter, 3kg LME, 300gm medium crystal, OG 40 and IBU 30 or so.
After 4 days in the keg it's ok, no major hop loss or anything. tastes just like any 40/30 bitter I've put together over the last 2 or 3 years
maybe I did something stoopid with the brown ale keg - could I have done ?
I'll do another round of Brown and Bitter to see if it's really ok or not.