Yakima Monster
Well, I have been talking a bit about it on the forum - so I thought (spur of the moment) that I'd finally brew an American style Pale Ale. I had a packet of US-05 in the fridge that was due to expire... the dreaded 03-09 batch! I did a brew with another 03-09 packet 3 or 4 weeks ago: it was my GP Simcoe SMaSH. The beer is incredible - so I thought bugger it, I'll just use the same yeast... it's fermenting quite happily now at 18 degrees. What I thought I'd talk about this week is beer clarity, and what I do (be it supersticious probably) to try and get clear beer. I will disclaim now - that this is not a "How To" or me proclaiming to be a great home brewer. I don't even claim that my home brew is any good. The following is just a "this is what I do" for anyone to read. I will state though, that when I want clear beer, my beer is clear. I made a brew yesterday that has to flavour it two Yakima proprietry hop varieties: Simcoe and Amarillo. In my opinion. Yakima Chief is leading the way in producing unbelieveable flavour and aroma hops with incridible smoothness. I used the generic cultivar "Nugget" to bitter this batch - however the main theme here is "Late Hopping". To me, I'd say that if you want clear beer - you need clear wort. Before I rigged up my recirculating mash setup, I used to do the "pitcher then pitcher" technique: i.e. I'd fill a 2 litre pitcher then move the hose to the next while tipping the previous back into the top. Now, I just turn the pump on (at the same flow rate) and just leave it to recirculate. This is handy in 2 respects. The first is that the wort becomes very clear with minimal effort: I recirculate what I calculated to be 30 Litres. That is 15 pitchers. Normally I'd get bored after 5 pitchers or so, and make do. The second is mashing out. Because there is a constant flow in the mash tun, mashing out can be completed without even disturbing the grain bed. This is a major plus as disturbing the grain bed will unclog all the shit you just filtered out over the last 15 minutes. This is a photo of the wort once the mash was complete, after 15 minutes of reculation.
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Comment by Stu McKinlay on January 22, 2009 at 10:53am
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1272 is more commonly used by commercial brewers here (from what I've heard). Sounds more interesting to me but some people like their beer clean.
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Comment by jt on January 22, 2009 at 10:57am
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Clean would be 1272 to me - or ferment cool for clean, light citrus character
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1272 would be less clean to me - Fruitier and more flocculent than Wyeast 1056
My [very limited] experience, and this certainly isn't meant to come across as a general rule, is that the more flocculant English and American yeasts tend to be more fruity and slightly sweeter in the finish. Less flocculant ones tend to be cleaner and drier finishing, though they do taste quite "yeasty" until they've cleared out.
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Comment by JoKing on January 22, 2009 at 12:06pm
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I liked how 1272 looked on paper, however - the flavour contributions are so minor that it was hard to notice over all the hops! I think for anchor liberty - it's fine: not much hops compared to what I've been brewing. Hoppy beer though, I prefer wy1056 / wlp001 - these are just my preferences though: other people may disagree. The fruity side of wy1272 reminded me a lot of an english yeast characteristic that didn't stand well in blonde ales or IPAs - wlp001 was better for me, and for that matter so is us-05. Just my opinion though!
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This is a serious beer. I just tasted some out of the fermenter after a day of dry hopping, and the oil was in my mouth for a whole half hour after the taste. I would have had 50mls. I think it is going to be great - the FG is 1.008 from 1.053. Thats 85% attenuation - it sort of accentuates the bitterness in a way. It's pretty crisp and sharp too. There was a fair amount of vegetation floating in the sample jar. The range of hop flavours are plentyful - I'm getting a lot of citrus, some pine a fair amount of passionfruit. Not a hell of a lot of Malt though, which is what I was after. The hops dont seem to be covering up any sins - it is just clean, dry and bitter.
I'm happy.
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Well, I kegged the monster before work on Tuesday night. I got home yesterday had a bit of a sleep, and when I woke at 2pm I decided to see if the beast had indeed been unleashed - keeping in mind that the beer had only been a pile of dry stock 2 and a half weeks ago. The news was pretty good.
I fined this one - so the clarity was good. There was a fair amount of vegetation floating around in the glass - something I always appreciate. To be honest, the beer reminded me of a fizzy Twisted Hop IPA. I realise that the only similarity to that beer would be the citrussyness of the Amarillo, (twisted hop had US Cascade) but it was equally attenuated and equally neutral in malt flavour. There's a bit there - but the beer is all about the hop.
It is clean, I'll get that one out of the way. You can smell it while the pour is occuring infront of you... even though your nose is a foot or so away from the glass. I wont say the aroma is OTT, just nicely showcasing the beauty of the hops selected. Predominant citrus with hints of black currant and passionfruit. Taste is just the same - but seems more satisfying with a dry finish that is quite piney and resinous. The bitterness starts the flavour response and ends it. A smacking of the toungue against the roof of the mouth even 5 minutes after the last sup regenerates oily herbal flavours.
I'll give this one the tick of success now. If it lasts until the period when it is supposed to be perfectly conditioned, I'm sure it would be awesome.
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Comment by Peter Smith on August 22, 2014 at 9:18am
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and here
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Thats the intersting observation - when you pitch dry US-05 into the fermenter, it behaves like 1272... (I have used 1272 in 5 brews this year). But when you repitch (jamils pitching rate calculator) US-05 for 2nd gen fermentation it bahaves more like wlp001 / wy1056.
Yeah... I believe this so much, that I brewed the blonde ale specifically to reuse the yeast in a hoppy brew aka Yakima Monster. Someone should do a scientific analysis on this methodology... cough (MrCherry)...Anyone else noticed how us-05 is different on repitch vs dry? is it just pitch rates?
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Comment by Mark Weusten on August 26, 2014 at 10:55am
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Im not familiar with 1272 or 1056. What characteristics do you think the US-05 gains with repitch?
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