Clone Brews Discussions - RealBeer.co.nz2024-03-29T15:50:04Zhttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/groups/group/forum?groupUrl=clone-brews&feed=yes&xn_auth=noWeezledog Brewing Publishes Beer Recipestag:www.forum.realbeer.co.nz,2017-02-26:1500433:Topic:2376242017-02-26T22:43:28.628ZPeter Smithhttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profile/PeterSmith
<p>Big thanks to Mark Jackman, the legend behind <a href="http://www.weezledogbrewing.co.nz/">http://www.weezledogbrewing.co.nz/</a> for publishing his recipes on his website. Take a look and start reading about steep / whirl pooling.</p>
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<p>Lets repay this man by buying a few of his beers next time you are at the offie...</p>
<p>Big thanks to Mark Jackman, the legend behind <a href="http://www.weezledogbrewing.co.nz/">http://www.weezledogbrewing.co.nz/</a> for publishing his recipes on his website. Take a look and start reading about steep / whirl pooling.</p>
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<p>Lets repay this man by buying a few of his beers next time you are at the offie...</p> Garage Project's Pernicious Weed Clonetag:www.forum.realbeer.co.nz,2016-10-18:1500433:Topic:2353242016-10-18T00:13:24.755ZBuster Buntinghttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profile/BusterBunting
<p>Hey Guys, Looking for a bit of feedback. <br></br>GP's Pernicious Weed is one hell of an IIPA.<br></br><br></br>I haven't yet brewed this yet, and may not for a while as GP say they are using 100% whole cones and frankly, my current system just cant handle that at the moment... thats a lot of hop matter....<br></br><br></br>I could always try using type90s.<br></br><br></br>Anyway, I would love you thoughts and theories, comments and quarries on the recipe I've made.<br></br><br></br></p>
<p>(side note - is there an easy way…</p>
<p>Hey Guys, Looking for a bit of feedback. <br/>GP's Pernicious Weed is one hell of an IIPA.<br/><br/>I haven't yet brewed this yet, and may not for a while as GP say they are using 100% whole cones and frankly, my current system just cant handle that at the moment... thats a lot of hop matter....<br/><br/>I could always try using type90s.<br/><br/>Anyway, I would love you thoughts and theories, comments and quarries on the recipe I've made.<br/><br/></p>
<p>(side note - is there an easy way to import BeerSmith recipes into this forum? I'm new here.)</p>
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<p>19L, BH eff@70% boil off for 60min<br/>OG: 1.071<br/>FG: 1.010<br/>ABV 8.0%<br/>EBC 8.2</p>
<p>IBU 80.1</p>
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<p>5.25kg Golden Promise<br/>0.23kg Carapils<br/>0.41kg Dextrose <br/><br/>***Lactic for pH adjustment***</p>
<p>US-O5 <br/><br/></p>
<p>HOP/WEIGHT(gs)/TIME/IBU</p>
<p>Nelson sauvin/5/60/6.5<br/>Riwaka/5/60/2.9<br/>NS/14/20/11.1<br/>Riwaka/14/20/4.9</p>
<p>NS/42/10/19.9<br/>Riwaka/42/10/8.7<br/><br/></p>
<p>Whirlpool with 56g EACH NS AND Riwaka for 20mins @~90C</p>
<p>DryHop with 56g EACH NS AND Riwaka for 5 days.</p>
<p></p> Garage Project - Angry Peaches Clonetag:www.forum.realbeer.co.nz,2016-08-29:1500433:Topic:2342742016-08-29T20:11:07.604ZPeter Smithhttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profile/PeterSmith
<p>The key to this beer is a massive whirlpool that delivers super peaches flavour, The whirlpool must not start until you chill to 75C.. </p>
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<p>For a 20L batch for me into fermenter, I used us-05 but next batch I am going to try 090 or more likely 1272 which I think would be a better fit then us05.</p>
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<p>Dry hop with 50-60g Amarillo as well</p>
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<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><b><i>Efficiency:</i></b> 70.00 %</span></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><b><i>Est Mash…</i></b></span></p>
<p>The key to this beer is a massive whirlpool that delivers super peaches flavour, The whirlpool must not start until you chill to 75C.. </p>
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<p>For a 20L batch for me into fermenter, I used us-05 but next batch I am going to try 090 or more likely 1272 which I think would be a better fit then us05.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Dry hop with 50-60g Amarillo as well</p>
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<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><b><i>Efficiency:</i></b> 70.00 %</span></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><b><i>Est Mash Efficiency:</i></b> 83.2 %</span></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><b><i>Taste Rating:</i></b> 30.0</span></p>
<p class="p2"><span class="s1"><b><i>Taste Notes:</i></b> </span></p>
<p class="p3"><span class="s1">Ingredients</span></p>
<table width="938" cellspacing="0" class="t1">
<tbody><tr><td valign="middle" class="td1"><p class="p4"><span class="s1"><b>Amt</b></span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td2"><p class="p4"><span class="s1"><b>Name</b></span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td3"><p class="p4"><span class="s1"><b>Type</b></span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td4"><p class="p4"><span class="s1"><b>#</b></span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td5"><p class="p4"><span class="s1"><b>%/IBU</b></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td valign="middle" class="td6"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">5.50 kg</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td7"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">Gladfield American Ale Malt (3.0 SRM)</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td8"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">Grain</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td9"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">1</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td10"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">89.0 %</span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td valign="middle" class="td6"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">0.38 kg</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td7"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">Gladfield Medium Crystal Malt (56.3 SRM)</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td8"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">Grain</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td9"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">2</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td10"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">6.1 %</span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td valign="middle" class="td6"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">0.30 kg</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td7"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">Acid Malt (3.0 SRM)</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td8"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">Grain</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td9"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">3</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td10"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">4.9 %</span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td valign="middle" class="td6"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">10.00 g</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td7"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">Amarillo [9.20 %] - Boil 90.0 min</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td8"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">Hop</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td9"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">4</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td10"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">10.3 IBUs</span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td valign="middle" class="td6"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">15.00 g</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td7"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">Amarillo [9.20 %] - Boil 60.0 min</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td8"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">Hop</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td9"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">5</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td10"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">14.5 IBUs</span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td valign="middle" class="td6"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">20.00 g</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td7"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">Amarillo [9.20 %] - Boil 30.0 min</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td8"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">Hop</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td9"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">6</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td10"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">14.8 IBUs</span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td valign="middle" class="td6"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">20.00 g</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td7"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">Amarillo [9.20 %] - Boil 15.0 min</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td8"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">Hop</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td9"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">7</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td10"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">9.6 IBUs</span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td valign="middle" class="td6"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">180.00 g</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td7"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">Amarillo [9.20 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 40 min @ 75C</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td8"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">Hop</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td9"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">8</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td10"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">0.0 IBUs</span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td valign="middle" class="td6"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">2.0 pkg</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td7"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">Safale American (DCL/Fermentis #US-05) [50.28 ml]</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td8"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">Yeast</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td9"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">9</span></p>
</td>
<td valign="middle" class="td10"><p class="p5"><span class="s1">-</span></p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p class="p6"><span class="s1">Gravity, Alcohol Content and Color</span></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><b><i>Estimated Alcohol by Vol:</i></b> 6.6 %</span></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><b><i>Bitterness:</i></b> 49.3 IBUs</span></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><b><i> </i></b></span></p> Sawmill Pilsnertag:www.forum.realbeer.co.nz,2016-08-07:1500433:Topic:2341012016-08-07T20:15:08.277ZPeter Smithhttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profile/PeterSmith
<p>Sawmill Pilsner - Has anyone tried to clone the pilsner?</p>
<blockquote><p>Biscuity pilsner malt and distinctive Motueka and Riwaka hops bringing aromas of lemon and lime. Nelson Sauvin for a tart gooseberry hit. Straw coloured appearance, brilliantly clear, with a long lasting white head. Crisp and bitter. Medium dry finish.</p>
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<p><span>Thinking below at 72% eff and a 20L batch into Fermenter OG 1.047 IBU 40, maybe another 30g mot at flameout...…</span></p>
<p>Sawmill Pilsner - Has anyone tried to clone the pilsner?</p>
<blockquote><p>Biscuity pilsner malt and distinctive Motueka and Riwaka hops bringing aromas of lemon and lime. Nelson Sauvin for a tart gooseberry hit. Straw coloured appearance, brilliantly clear, with a long lasting white head. Crisp and bitter. Medium dry finish.</p>
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<p><span>Thinking below at 72% eff and a 20L batch into Fermenter OG 1.047 IBU 40, maybe another 30g mot at flameout... ?</span></p>
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<p><span><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1004879968?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="750" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1004879968?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="750" class="align-full"/></a></span></p> Leffe Radieuse Clonetag:www.forum.realbeer.co.nz,2016-01-28:1500433:Topic:2297602016-01-28T09:12:58.686ZSteve Dorringtonhttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profile/SteveDorrington
<p>I've been rather partial to Saison's & Heffe's this summer and made a couple of each. I also really like the Leffe Radieuse but I only found one recipe on homebrewtalk.com, so that was it then. I didn't plug it into Beersmith (mistake) and missed the OG by a big margin. Also the Candi sugar was about half what was needed and so it's a little lighter too. </p>
<p>target OG 1.078 FG 1.014 ABV 8.2%</p>
<p>23L, IBU 17 </p>
<p>90 min mash @ 65deg C</p>
<p>30 min recirc 65degC > MO…</p>
<p>I've been rather partial to Saison's & Heffe's this summer and made a couple of each. I also really like the Leffe Radieuse but I only found one recipe on homebrewtalk.com, so that was it then. I didn't plug it into Beersmith (mistake) and missed the OG by a big margin. Also the Candi sugar was about half what was needed and so it's a little lighter too. </p>
<p>target OG 1.078 FG 1.014 ABV 8.2%</p>
<p>23L, IBU 17 </p>
<p>90 min mash @ 65deg C</p>
<p>30 min recirc 65degC > MO 75degC</p>
<p>90 min boil. </p>
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<p>6kg Pilsener Malt Weyermann</p>
<p>0.46kg Munich Light Weyermann</p>
<p>0.24 CaraMunich </p>
<p>0.24 Aromatic</p>
<p>0.24 Special B </p>
<p>0.23kg Dark Candi Sugar (All I had left, should have used 0.38kg)</p>
<p>0.4kg White sugar</p>
<p>30g Ultra hops 8.2% @ 60 mins</p>
<p>2 pkts T-58 in a 48hr 1.5L starter </p>
<p>Got 24L @ OG 1.069 </p>
<p>fermented at 18 rising to 20deg after a week.</p>
<p>After 2 weeks it's still at 1.020 but tasting promising. It's a bit lighter (colour and ABV) than I wanted, which while it's OK wasn't what I was hoping for. Is there anyone else out there who has tried to make a Radieuse or any Leffe or Chimay clones at all and has some tips? </p>
<p>thanks</p>
<p></p>
<p> </p>
<p></p> Panhead Vindicatortag:www.forum.realbeer.co.nz,2015-11-25:1500433:Topic:2274612015-11-25T01:11:47.896ZCrusader-Robhttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profile/CRUSADER1612
<p>I Brewed this up awhile ago now. </p>
<p>I read somewhere that they used SpecialB and Caramunich with Pale Malt to get colour.</p>
<p>with abv around 7-8% it needed to be big, and at the time i was still running BIAB, but it went from 1072-1014 with M44. crystal clear.</p>
<p>general grist was:</p>
<p>6%special B</p>
<p>4% Caramunich</p>
<p>90% Pale Malt (I had 1% Acidulated malt in as well for ph)</p>
<p>The hops are listed on the bottle i think? well they were.</p>
<p>chinook / centennial…</p>
<p>I Brewed this up awhile ago now. </p>
<p>I read somewhere that they used SpecialB and Caramunich with Pale Malt to get colour.</p>
<p>with abv around 7-8% it needed to be big, and at the time i was still running BIAB, but it went from 1072-1014 with M44. crystal clear.</p>
<p>general grist was:</p>
<p>6%special B</p>
<p>4% Caramunich</p>
<p>90% Pale Malt (I had 1% Acidulated malt in as well for ph)</p>
<p>The hops are listed on the bottle i think? well they were.</p>
<p>chinook / centennial / zythos</p>
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<p>hop schedule</p>
<p>60min - 40g chinook</p>
<p>20min - 30g chinook</p>
<p>0 min - 70g centennial / 30g chinook / 30g zythos</p>
<p>dryhop - 70g centennial / 30g chinook / 35g zythos</p>
<p>M44 yeast x 3 packs took off like a rocket. (Re-hydrated)</p>
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<p>I think I'm in the ball park, didn't have anything to compare against, but i think colour was good, and the main difference was it was more bitter more hoppy, due to the massive late hopping.</p>
<p></p> Panhead Port Road Pilstag:www.forum.realbeer.co.nz,2015-10-20:1500433:Topic:2258622015-10-20T22:26:24.883ZDavid Rhttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profile/DavidR
<p>Bit late to the party, I've only just around to trying this beer but I really enjoyed the six-pack I grabbed last weekend! To me it was the perfect hopped-up pilsner with just enough hop flavour without pushing it towards mini-IPA territory. I'd be pretty happy if I could brew something similar for an easy summer beer.</p>
<p>I couldn't find much about it, other than [url=http://www.glengarrywines.co.nz/items/91918/panhead+port+road+pilsner+%28500ml%29]this[/url]; "A classic Kiwi hop style…</p>
<p>Bit late to the party, I've only just around to trying this beer but I really enjoyed the six-pack I grabbed last weekend! To me it was the perfect hopped-up pilsner with just enough hop flavour without pushing it towards mini-IPA territory. I'd be pretty happy if I could brew something similar for an easy summer beer.</p>
<p>I couldn't find much about it, other than [url=http://www.glengarrywines.co.nz/items/91918/panhead+port+road+pilsner+%28500ml%29]this[/url]; "A classic Kiwi hop style of passionfruit and grapefruit - like a beer version of your New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc. Also, made with a hybrid of New Zealand and German malts."</p>
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<p>I've never brewed with lager yeast before and I'm not really set up to do so, but I can do a fairly constant 16-17C thanks to a heatpump in a downstairs bedroom so I'm going to go with something like Danstar Nottingham and try keep the ferment as cool as possible.</p>
<p>For the grains, maybe mostly NZ pilsner plus a touch of carapils, but where does the "German" bit come from?</p>
<p>And hops, passionfruit and grapefruit sounds like Motueka and Riwaka to me. Spread through the boil with moderately generous late additions and a small dry hop.</p>
<p>I haven't put the numbers into beersmith yet, just brainstorming post-nightshift. Does anyone know how friendly are the Panhead guys about sharing info??</p> EPIC HOP ZOMBIEtag:www.forum.realbeer.co.nz,2015-10-15:1500433:Topic:2257132015-10-15T03:43:16.087ZCain Harlandhttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profile/CainHarland
<p>I drank one yesterday and damn it was good. Any one got any idea about cloning it?</p>
<p>I see <a href="http://craftbrewing.co.nz/recipes/hop-monsters/epic-hop-zombie" target="_blank">there is a kit here</a>.</p>
<p>I drank one yesterday and damn it was good. Any one got any idea about cloning it?</p>
<p>I see <a href="http://craftbrewing.co.nz/recipes/hop-monsters/epic-hop-zombie" target="_blank">there is a kit here</a>.</p> Panhead - Jonny Octanetag:www.forum.realbeer.co.nz,2015-10-14:1500433:Topic:2256982015-10-14T00:23:26.333ZHarryhttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profile/Harry
<div class="short-description"><div class="std"><p>Hi guys, </p>
<p></p>
<p>Looking at trying to clone this beer, probably early next month.</p>
<p></p>
<p>I tried it at LBQ earlier this month towards the end of the night and really enjoyed it, however having had a skinfull by this time my memory of what I enjoyed so much is a tad hazy, so unfortunately will have to try it again before finalising the recipe :)</p>
<p></p>
<p>I have searched online for some info and this description was the best…</p>
</div>
</div>
<div class="short-description"><div class="std"><p>Hi guys, </p>
<p></p>
<p>Looking at trying to clone this beer, probably early next month.</p>
<p></p>
<p>I tried it at LBQ earlier this month towards the end of the night and really enjoyed it, however having had a skinfull by this time my memory of what I enjoyed so much is a tad hazy, so unfortunately will have to try it again before finalising the recipe :)</p>
<p></p>
<p>I have searched online for some info and this description was the best I saw, naturally I have never used any of these hops and this is a beer which relies heavily on them, so I'm going to need some advice regarding their use. I also haven't used Sheperd's Delight, Red Back or Aurora malts which I'm initially thinking could be utilised in this brew, so any advice there would be appreciated.</p>
<p></p>
<p>"This is Canhead No.4 in a range of four great new beers from Panhead presented in 440ml cans. Hence Canhead This is a heavily hopped IPA with large additions of Columbus, Centennial, Amarillo and Simcoe producing aromas of orange, pine and caramel. The rich, firm malt base identifies it clearly as a red. The hops provide a balanced bitterness on the palate and a lengthy pine and citrus finish.</p>
<p>8% ABV"</p>
<p>(<a href="http://www.craftbeeronline.co.nz/panhead-canhead-no-4-johnny-octane-red-ipa-440ml-can.html">http://www.craftbeeronline.co.nz/panhead-canhead-no-4-johnny-octane-red-ipa-440ml-can.html</a>)</p>
<p></p>
<p></p>
<p>Crunching some numbers on brewersfriend and breaking my usual rules regarding the amounts of specialty malts I would use I'm currently thinking along the lines of </p>
<p></p>
<p>4.2 kg Pale Ale</p>
<p>1.5 kg Munich</p>
<p>0.7 kg Medium Crystal</p>
<p>0.25 kg Aurora</p>
<p>0.03 Black malt</p>
<p></p>
<p>With 80% efficiency this gives vitals of 1.083 OG and 30 EBC.</p>
<p>With the black being there purely for colour I might even leave it out. </p>
<p>The Crystal and Munich combo I have used before, it ended up far to sweet in that recipe without enough hop bitterness to balance so will have to go back into the diary to check out what IBU's it had, but for this my first thought is to balance it with OG or slightly lower and aim for 80, with the majority of the hops coming in late. </p>
<p></p>
<p>Given the information above I'm thinking</p>
<p></p>
<p>25g Simcoe (12.7%) @ 60 min 35 IBU</p>
<p>50g Amarillo (8.6%) Whirlpool (30 mins, 5% utilisation) 10 IBU</p>
<p>50g Centennial (10%) Whirlpool (30 mins, 5% utilisation) 12 IBU</p>
<p>50g Columbus (15%) Whirlpool (30 mins, 5% utilisation) 18 IBU</p>
<p></p>
<p>Total 75 IBU, however given I have plucked my hop utilisation that's probably +/- 15.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Yeast I was looking at using S-04 for its slightly lower attenuation adding to the background sweetness, ferment at 20°</p>
<p></p>
<p>This is a decent step away from what I usually brew and plenty of unknowns in there for me ( well only malts, hops and trying to clone a beer), so any advice is greatly appreciated. As I said my memory of the beer is slightly hazy so I will have to try and track down another can as this current recipe may be waaaaay off. </p>
<p></p>
<p></p>
<p></p>
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</div> Liberty Citra Imperial IPAtag:www.forum.realbeer.co.nz,2015-09-16:1500433:Topic:2240862015-09-16T01:14:57.120ZSam DThttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profile/SamuelDaviesTalwar
<p>As a few of us have discussed this is an outstanding beer that definitely needs cloning...</p>
<p>Joe if you're out there somewhere still feel free to nudge us in the right direction, although we wouldn't begrudge you for wanting to keep such a top recipe under your hat...</p>
<p>Have at it!</p>
<p>As a few of us have discussed this is an outstanding beer that definitely needs cloning...</p>
<p>Joe if you're out there somewhere still feel free to nudge us in the right direction, although we wouldn't begrudge you for wanting to keep such a top recipe under your hat...</p>
<p>Have at it!</p>