Unfashionable NZ Hops - RealBeer.co.nz2024-03-29T15:09:40Zhttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/forum/topics/unfashionable-nz-hops?commentId=1500433%3AComment%3A155325&feed=yes&xn_auth=noBoth beers I mentioned earlie…tag:www.forum.realbeer.co.nz,2017-09-23:1500433:Comment:2413732017-09-23T08:03:29.334ZDavid Rhttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profile/DavidR
<p>Both beers I mentioned earlier are on tap now, the ESB is fantastic but I wish I'd added a good whirlpool of the Fuggles (I was trying to show some restraint, not usually my forte when it comes to hops!) even though it would have made it more of a pale ale than bitter. The Willamette/Cascade pale ale is good but I think it'll get better as it ages a little and although I'm not unhappy with it I think I'd prefer it mixed more like 50/50 with something a little fruitier.</p>
<p>Both beers I mentioned earlier are on tap now, the ESB is fantastic but I wish I'd added a good whirlpool of the Fuggles (I was trying to show some restraint, not usually my forte when it comes to hops!) even though it would have made it more of a pale ale than bitter. The Willamette/Cascade pale ale is good but I think it'll get better as it ages a little and although I'm not unhappy with it I think I'd prefer it mixed more like 50/50 with something a little fruitier.</p> Likewise. Brewed a few ESB'…tag:www.forum.realbeer.co.nz,2017-09-19:1500433:Comment:2414672017-09-19T05:07:12.568ZIan Rushtonhttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profile/IanRushton
<p>Likewise. Brewed a few ESB's with NZ Fuggles/Goldings in the past. Currently have a partial-mash Best Bitter down using sticklebract. Last time I used that hop (cones) was in 1984! </p>
<p>Likewise. Brewed a few ESB's with NZ Fuggles/Goldings in the past. Currently have a partial-mash Best Bitter down using sticklebract. Last time I used that hop (cones) was in 1984! </p> Found an old hand-written bee…tag:www.forum.realbeer.co.nz,2017-09-18:1500433:Comment:2411672017-09-18T23:03:48.741ZMarkhttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profile/Mark
<p>Found an old hand-written beer plan for an English Best I did years ago when I was still partial mashing. I used NZ Willamette and NZ Fuggles and the hops were outstanding. I've not been able to reproduce that flavour with imported/other varieties so I'm going to have a go replicating what I did many moons ago. After years of hammering the fruit bomb hops I'm getting quite into the old-world style again!</p>
<p>Found an old hand-written beer plan for an English Best I did years ago when I was still partial mashing. I used NZ Willamette and NZ Fuggles and the hops were outstanding. I've not been able to reproduce that flavour with imported/other varieties so I'm going to have a go replicating what I did many moons ago. After years of hammering the fruit bomb hops I'm getting quite into the old-world style again!</p> Sounds intriguing, let me kno…tag:www.forum.realbeer.co.nz,2017-08-03:1500433:Comment:2407042017-08-03T23:39:43.189ZDavid Rhttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profile/DavidR
<p>Sounds intriguing, let me know what you come up with! Now you've got me thinking of using the built-up cake of 002 to brew something stronger, IENZIPA?!</p>
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<p>I've never used 002 before, I'm guessing a diacetyl rest is a must then?</p>
<p>Sounds intriguing, let me know what you come up with! Now you've got me thinking of using the built-up cake of 002 to brew something stronger, IENZIPA?!</p>
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<p>I've never used 002 before, I'm guessing a diacetyl rest is a must then?</p> NZ Fuggles sounds yum as does…tag:www.forum.realbeer.co.nz,2017-08-03:1500433:Comment:2409982017-08-03T21:49:24.662ZRichard Deeblehttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profile/RichardDeeble
<p>NZ Fuggles sounds yum as does the other hop combo. I like the idea of using 002 as well, will definitely bring out the malt and the marmalade provided you deal with the diacetyl it inevitably kicks out. <br></br><br></br>I really want to do a really hoppy but English take on an an NZIPA sometime as I think we don't appreciate what the combo of English yeast and our homegrown English varieties can do for flavour, especially when it comes to getting a big orange zest character. There were some…</p>
<p>NZ Fuggles sounds yum as does the other hop combo. I like the idea of using 002 as well, will definitely bring out the malt and the marmalade provided you deal with the diacetyl it inevitably kicks out. <br/><br/>I really want to do a really hoppy but English take on an an NZIPA sometime as I think we don't appreciate what the combo of English yeast and our homegrown English varieties can do for flavour, especially when it comes to getting a big orange zest character. There were some excellent earlier NZ craft beers which featured Styrian Goldings in large quantities that were great. </p> Stumbled across this thread r…tag:www.forum.realbeer.co.nz,2017-08-03:1500433:Comment:2408862017-08-03T05:42:00.652ZDavid Rhttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profile/DavidR
<p>Stumbled across this thread recently and found it interesting, so I thought I'd bump it back up.</p>
<p>After spending nearly $60 on hops for my most recent IPA (23L batch with Citra, Mosaic and Sauvin) I decided to do a couple of English-style beers for a change. Originally I'd planned a traditional ESB and an English IPA, but after having a read of this I thought I'd put a kiwi spin on it and do the ESB with NZ Fuggles. And instead of the English IPA I'm going 95% Red X and 5% med crystal,…</p>
<p>Stumbled across this thread recently and found it interesting, so I thought I'd bump it back up.</p>
<p>After spending nearly $60 on hops for my most recent IPA (23L batch with Citra, Mosaic and Sauvin) I decided to do a couple of English-style beers for a change. Originally I'd planned a traditional ESB and an English IPA, but after having a read of this I thought I'd put a kiwi spin on it and do the ESB with NZ Fuggles. And instead of the English IPA I'm going 95% Red X and 5% med crystal, and I've got 100g NZ Willamette and 50g Taiheke (NZ Cascade) to go with it (and was thinking of using the WLP002 from the ESB too). Not sure whether to dry hop it or just go with a slightly larger whirlpool addition, any suggestions? </p> Have you put Sticklebract wit…tag:www.forum.realbeer.co.nz,2012-07-31:1500433:Comment:1592462012-07-31T05:50:21.607ZScarrfiehttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profile/Scarfie
<p>Have you put Sticklebract with Motueka? I did it in a lager last winter and the last few bottles downed recently were actually pretty good. 50/50 all the way through. I have a Czech Pilsner two weeks into fermentation to see if I just got lucky or not :-) But I want to try the same theme with Super Alpha. I have a PKB clone maturing BTW, that and Smokin Bishop were the highlight of Beerfest for me.</p>
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<p>Motueka Raven will be on the shopping list.</p>
<p>Have you put Sticklebract with Motueka? I did it in a lager last winter and the last few bottles downed recently were actually pretty good. 50/50 all the way through. I have a Czech Pilsner two weeks into fermentation to see if I just got lucky or not :-) But I want to try the same theme with Super Alpha. I have a PKB clone maturing BTW, that and Smokin Bishop were the highlight of Beerfest for me.</p>
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<p>Motueka Raven will be on the shopping list.</p> There's a good deal of super…tag:www.forum.realbeer.co.nz,2012-07-30:1500433:Comment:1593102012-07-30T20:48:53.230ZStu McKinlayhttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profile/StuMcKinlay
<p>There's a good deal of super alpha as late hop and dry hop in Motueka Raven. Quite herbal in there, I think.</p>
<p>I'm pretty keen to use it in a strong golden ale as well... blown away by it when I tried one of kieran Haslett-Moore's beers using it.</p>
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<p>The one's I have never had any success with are Pacific Gem and Sticklebract.</p>
<p>There's a good deal of super alpha as late hop and dry hop in Motueka Raven. Quite herbal in there, I think.</p>
<p>I'm pretty keen to use it in a strong golden ale as well... blown away by it when I tried one of kieran Haslett-Moore's beers using it.</p>
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<p>The one's I have never had any success with are Pacific Gem and Sticklebract.</p> Ive used GB as bittering in…tag:www.forum.realbeer.co.nz,2012-07-30:1500433:Comment:1593052012-07-30T08:48:42.164ZDanhttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profile/DanMartin
<p>Ive used GB as bittering in Stout, IPA and Bookbinder clone. Worked well but it has got a harsher bite when compared to say Southern cross for bittering. Prefer SC myself</p>
<p>Ive used GB as bittering in Stout, IPA and Bookbinder clone. Worked well but it has got a harsher bite when compared to say Southern cross for bittering. Prefer SC myself</p> I think I just got impatient…tag:www.forum.realbeer.co.nz,2012-07-28:1500433:Comment:1591292012-07-28T05:40:32.147ZHillmanhttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profile/Hillman
<p>I think I just got impatient and didn't let it settle for long enough. I have a hop blocker that usually does the trick, but it got pretty badly clogged. I did use a lot of hop pellets. I might bag them next time. I haven't had problems using flowers before as I've bagged them in the kettle and they can't escape from the hop back, where they act as a filter and keep hop matter out of the fermenter. The big issue with them is they suck up a whole lot of wort. It just didn't go that way…</p>
<p>I think I just got impatient and didn't let it settle for long enough. I have a hop blocker that usually does the trick, but it got pretty badly clogged. I did use a lot of hop pellets. I might bag them next time. I haven't had problems using flowers before as I've bagged them in the kettle and they can't escape from the hop back, where they act as a filter and keep hop matter out of the fermenter. The big issue with them is they suck up a whole lot of wort. It just didn't go that way yesterday. </p>