Emersons sold - RealBeer.co.nz2024-03-29T07:45:49Zhttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/forum/topics/emersons-sold?commentId=1500433%3AComment%3A165709&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI think the Free House's reas…tag:www.forum.realbeer.co.nz,2012-11-07:1500433:Comment:1657092012-11-07T20:08:03.492ZDaihttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profile/Dai
<p>I think the Free House's reasons for cutting Emersons are valid. However, I disagree with HZ's reason- I thought their main policy was 'no crap on tap'. Clearly Emersons does not fall into that category. </p>
<p>I think the Free House's reasons for cutting Emersons are valid. However, I disagree with HZ's reason- I thought their main policy was 'no crap on tap'. Clearly Emersons does not fall into that category. </p> With reference to Speights ol…tag:www.forum.realbeer.co.nz,2012-11-07:1500433:Comment:1656312012-11-07T19:06:26.891ZJason Bamberyhttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profile/JasonBambery
<p>With reference to Speights old dark, has anyone tasted the Speights Pilsner lately? It used to be an ok beer but now it is a pale imitation of it self and is called a '3 Hop Pilsner'.</p>
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<p>Maybe they have dumbed it down because have got Emerson's Pilsner and can only use so many hops now in Speights Pilsner as not many will buy the Speights one because have got Emerson's one</p>
<p>With reference to Speights old dark, has anyone tasted the Speights Pilsner lately? It used to be an ok beer but now it is a pale imitation of it self and is called a '3 Hop Pilsner'.</p>
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<p>Maybe they have dumbed it down because have got Emerson's Pilsner and can only use so many hops now in Speights Pilsner as not many will buy the Speights one because have got Emerson's one</p> Good grief, its going viral..…tag:www.forum.realbeer.co.nz,2012-11-07:1500433:Comment:1657032012-11-07T06:59:00.147ZGrant R Bakerhttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profile/GrantRBaker
<p>Good grief, its going viral...</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/small-business/7918013/Nelson-bar-calls-time-on-Emersonshttp://" target="_blank">Stuff Link</a></p>
<p><br/>I get their point though.. this "exclusive arrangements" in many bars is often why I just walk past looking for something good elsewhere. (I really hate the Auckland airport bar and its stink selection, Speights Old Dark is the only drinkable thing there).</p>
<p>Good grief, its going viral...</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/small-business/7918013/Nelson-bar-calls-time-on-Emersonshttp://" target="_blank">Stuff Link</a></p>
<p><br/>I get their point though.. this "exclusive arrangements" in many bars is often why I just walk past looking for something good elsewhere. (I really hate the Auckland airport bar and its stink selection, Speights Old Dark is the only drinkable thing there).</p> he he had to look it up on Ra…tag:www.forum.realbeer.co.nz,2012-11-07:1500433:Comment:1654502012-11-07T06:36:30.370ZGrant R Bakerhttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profile/GrantRBaker
<p>he he had to look it up on RateBeer... damn funny</p>
<p>2nd comment "Very similar to Tui" har har</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/macs-shady-pale-ale/181945/" target="_blank">RB</a></p>
<p>he he had to look it up on RateBeer... damn funny</p>
<p>2nd comment "Very similar to Tui" har har</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/macs-shady-pale-ale/181945/" target="_blank">RB</a></p> +1 from me, I couldn't give t…tag:www.forum.realbeer.co.nz,2012-11-07:1500433:Comment:1656182012-11-07T04:01:33.379ZHopshedhttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profile/ChrisHouston
<p>+1 from me, I couldn't give two shits who brews it if it is good.</p>
<p>Either Emerson's beers remain the same quality (which is far from amazing btw) and people continue to buy them, or they become crap like Monteith's and they lose their customers.</p>
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<p>I'd have 'sold out' like Emerson in a heart beat.</p>
<p>+1 from me, I couldn't give two shits who brews it if it is good.</p>
<p>Either Emerson's beers remain the same quality (which is far from amazing btw) and people continue to buy them, or they become crap like Monteith's and they lose their customers.</p>
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<p>I'd have 'sold out' like Emerson in a heart beat.</p> Its very interesting to read…tag:www.forum.realbeer.co.nz,2012-11-07:1500433:Comment:1656952012-11-07T02:09:24.969ZMark Goodinhttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profile/MarkGoodin
<p>Its very interesting to read everyone's responses on this matter...I have some questions about the general situation...</p>
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<p>Why do 'we' drink 'craft beer'?</p>
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<p>Is it because we want to support local 'craft' brewers? Maybe. However, if a local Craft brewer made average/crap beer would I drink it simply because they are craft brewers? Nope probably not. Im not going to drink something on principle. I drink craft beer because of how it tastes...I like to entertain…</p>
<p>Its very interesting to read everyone's responses on this matter...I have some questions about the general situation...</p>
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<p>Why do 'we' drink 'craft beer'?</p>
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<p>Is it because we want to support local 'craft' brewers? Maybe. However, if a local Craft brewer made average/crap beer would I drink it simply because they are craft brewers? Nope probably not. Im not going to drink something on principle. I drink craft beer because of how it tastes...I like to entertain my senses and taste buds. So therefore if it falls into the Craft category, so be it. But if it was made by one of the big two (or three) what would I do?</p>
<p>If Lion or DB produced the best beer in NZ (obviously subjective), but it was not considered Craft Beer, would no one drink it? I assume some people wont, because of who produces it.</p>
<p>But for people who love good beer, why wouldn't you drink it. It goes back to why I drink craft beer - because of how it tastes. So if Lion start making an example of the best beer in NZ, I will sure drink it. If they make a Hop bomb better than anyone else in the country of course I would buy it.</p>
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<p>Will I stop drinking Emersons as it stands? No, why would I...I like their Beer. Im drinking their <span>beer</span>. not indulging my senses in who owns the company.</p>
<p>If however quality of the product changes, then maybe I will stop drinking Emersons (but the quality would have to drop a fair bit as they produce such great beers).</p>
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<p>So for me, isn't it all about the quality of the product we all love? </p>
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<p>Good on Richard Emerson. </p> I can confirm in Melbourne at…tag:www.forum.realbeer.co.nz,2012-11-07:1500433:Comment:1655392012-11-07T01:08:03.697Z666 Brewinghttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profile/GraemeMahy
<p>I can confirm in Melbourne at the LC bar, only one hour from the brewery, that it is not as good as it used to be. Its like they cant afford the hops for it anymore... </p>
<p>I can confirm in Melbourne at the LC bar, only one hour from the brewery, that it is not as good as it used to be. Its like they cant afford the hops for it anymore... </p> Yeah, but poor bottle quality…tag:www.forum.realbeer.co.nz,2012-11-07:1500433:Comment:1655382012-11-07T00:37:55.209ZGreig McGillhttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profile/GreigMcGill
<p>Yeah, but poor bottle quality started happening long before the buy-out.</p>
<p>Yeah, but poor bottle quality started happening long before the buy-out.</p> I spent a token! Sadly it was…tag:www.forum.realbeer.co.nz,2012-11-07:1500433:Comment:1656132012-11-07T00:36:08.768ZGreig McGillhttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profile/GreigMcGill
<p>I spent a token! Sadly it was Shady Pale, which was disgusting. ;) Anyway, I'm split. I think Mac's Gold is an example of a beer which became a lot more boring, but Black Mac improved no end. If nothing else, it became reasonably consistent.</p>
<p>I spent a token! Sadly it was Shady Pale, which was disgusting. ;) Anyway, I'm split. I think Mac's Gold is an example of a beer which became a lot more boring, but Black Mac improved no end. If nothing else, it became reasonably consistent.</p> There have been many more tha…tag:www.forum.realbeer.co.nz,2012-11-07:1500433:Comment:1656912012-11-07T00:34:22.821ZGreig McGillhttp://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profile/GreigMcGill
<p>There have been many more than that. Goose Island were just the first to spring to mind. There was a really good doco on the guys who created Blue Moon. Apparently they were stoked with how AB just left them alone to get on with brewing, and focused on distribution. I know a certain Hamilton based brewer who LOVES Blue Moon for the simple well made refresher it is.</p>
<p>There have been many more than that. Goose Island were just the first to spring to mind. There was a really good doco on the guys who created Blue Moon. Apparently they were stoked with how AB just left them alone to get on with brewing, and focused on distribution. I know a certain Hamilton based brewer who LOVES Blue Moon for the simple well made refresher it is.</p>