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Kentish Ale - Spitfire clone   did 1/2 of recipe below and used Notty yeast

Spitfire Ale -Sheperd Neame 
Brew Type: All Grain Date: 9/16/2006 
Style: Special/Best/Premium Bitter Brewer: Chris Bowen  
Batch Size: 10.00 gal Assistant Brewer:  
Boil Volume: 11.45 gal Boil Time: 60 min 
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 % 

Ingredients Amount Item Type % or IBU 
9.75 lb Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 54.93 % 
3.75 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM) Grain 21.13 % 
2.25 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (80.0 SRM) Grain 12.68 % 
1.25 lb Wheat, Torrified (1.7 SRM) Grain 7.04 % 
0.75 lb Amber Malt (22.0 SRM) Grain 4.23 % 
2.00 oz Target [8.50 %] (60 min) Hops 31.2 IBU 
1.00 oz First Gold [7.50 %] (15 min) Hops 6.8 IBU 
1.00 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (5 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops -  
2.00 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc  
2.00 tsp Yeast Nutrient (Primary 3.0 days) Misc  

Beer Profile Estimated Original Gravity: 1.049 SG (1.040-1.048 SG) Measured Original Gravity: 1.045 SG 
Estimated Final Gravity: 1.012 SG (1.008-1.012 SG) Measured Final Gravity: 1.010 SG 
Estimated Color: 13.2 SRM (5.0-16.0 SRM) Color [Color] 
Bitterness: 38.1 IBU (25.0-40.0 IBU) Alpha Acid Units: 24.5 AAU 
Estimated Alcohol by Volume: 4.87 % (3.80-4.60 %) Actual Alcohol by Volume: 4.56 % 
Actual Calories: 198 cal/pint 

Mash Profile Name: Single Infusion, Full Body Mash 

You find Notts good Pete, good for style there?

I used it a bit awhile back and it wasn't very hop friendly, realised I didn't brew to it's character

its great for malt forward beers, english beers etc,   I have not tried it in a hoppy beer.   I quite like M44 but it has serious lag times... that said no bad results yet....

for liquids 1272 and 090 are goto neutrals and 1469 for english esters

I am drinking an abbey ale 2 B pale ale,  its great very subtle  

Yea, it's not a yeast for hops

MJ42 New World Strong Ale is good on malt, a little kinder on the hops too.

Short lag times, especially repitches. Quick, like Notts, so it's really good if you need to fill a keg quickly

i have just tried morgans american ale...

well will be pitching in next few hours just chilling things

looks like this is repackaged us 05 still cheap for 15 grams

So  a bit of a poll......      constant online home brew...

if you only had 1 keg online what type of beer would it be?   if 2 kegs what beers?

mine would be a uk best bitter and an american pale ale, i like lower % beers on tap...

1 keg - NZ IPA

2 kegs - NZ IPA + various depending on season and mood NZ Pils, Belgian Blonde, Tripel, Red IPA

... and always an annual RIS in bottles.

This year maybe a Pilsner

Last year probably an XPA

Before that maybe an APA

Year before a hoppy porter

Somewhere back, a mild

Next year ?

Second keg, one of the above

Just kegged a psuedo NZ Pils  calling it "Little Pils" because it's kiwi and it rocks.

OG: 1.054

IBU: 34

ABV: 5.5%

Batch Size: 21L


4.0 kg NZ Pilsner Malt 

300g NZ Vienna

300g NZ Gladiator

100g NZ Sour Grapes


10g Sauvin @ 60min

10g Sauvin @ 10min

10g Motueka @ 10min

10g Riwaka @ 10min

20g Sauvin @ 0min

20g Motueka @ 0min

20g Riwaka @ 0min

20g Sauvin Dry hop 4 days @ 14C

20g Motueka Dry hop 4 days @ 14C

20g Riwaka Dry hop 4 days @ 14C


US-05 @ 19C up to 22C over 10 days

thinking about a lunatic soup attempt , NZ Syrian...   massive dry hop like 400g for the 20L batch.....

After tasting this beer it seems a little thin which suprised me.  It's the first time I've brewed this using all NZ malts.  I'm thinking the recipe might need tweaking  to increase the amount of Gladiator to 500g or increase the mash temp from 67C to 68C.

I treated Gladiator as a straight swap for CarPils but I'm now reviewing that.  Anyone noticed anything similar?


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